[hist-analytic] Clarity Is Not Enough
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Fri Feb 20 20:01:14 EST 2009
C. D. Broad Cambridge man, so what does he know or _can_ know (i.e. is willing to) re: Oxford philosophy? Yes, S. R. Bayne loves him... but ... I find his pictures painted with too,er, broad (ouch) a brush.Grice amazingly cites him in "Personal Identity"!
Maybe a more curious connection is that between Broad and John Wisdom. I was never a big Wisdom fan. I certainly didn't cut my teeth on Wisdom, but I did do some cutting, Broadly speaking. Wisdom (somewhat like Von Wright) was at one time very much under the influence of Broad. Broad and Grice have very different ideas about how to pursue philosophy. One thing I've always like about Broad is his incredible understanding of people like Kant and Leibniz, as well as his work on sense data. Remember he is really far removed generationally from Grice. But you know somethin'? I can't think of any reason to believe that Broad would have taken issue with Grice on 'meaning'!
--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Jlsperanza at aol.com <Jlsperanza at aol.com> wrote:
From: Jlsperanza at aol.com <Jlsperanza at aol.com>
Subject: Re: Clarity Is Not Enough
To: hist-analytic at simplelists.co.uk
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 7:39 PM
-- says who?
-- says me.
-- whos you
-- Henry Habberley
-- and you mean?
-- well it's _not_ is it.
-- it's not what?
-- enough what?
-- Not enough _what_, enough _for_.
-- for what?
-- for life.
-- says who?
-- says me
-- who's you
"[Granted], clarity [may] be not enough; but, perhaps, it will be time to
this when we are within measurable distance of achieving
clarity on some matter."
In a message dated 2/20/2009 6:52:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rh1 at york.ac.uk writes:
Your description of this book caused me to get out my copy. What was it you
wanted to know about the book, that you hadn't been able to see?
Well, nothing really!
And contrats on the new issue of The John Locke Newsletter -- read about it
in PHILOS-L. My teacher (M. Costa) _loved_ those newsletters and made _me_
love them, too.
But it's an impressive book, and I'm glad you got out your copy. From
cupboard, I assume.
It's the distinguished Muirhead Library, right? Im-blooming-pressive!
I would think that the editor was perhaps Welsh. Note the "Lewis"
funny first names. And then _Prichard_ was Welsh. It's amazing how it
I was curious if Lewis gets to quote Austin's funny 'dealing' with
thing (which irritated R. B. Jones, rightly) in "A plea for excuses".
Austin's Plea for excuses has no footnotes, but he _must_ be thinking of
Prichard. ("Some say clarity is not enough...").
The list of contents is so overwhelming and I'm flabbergasted to see
I mean, where does he _stand_? He is with Grice and Strawson when he needs
them (for that Visiting Scholarship in Oxford) but against the playgroup when
he _feels_ like!
The other authors sort of escape me. Let me revise:
H H Price
yes, the infamous sloganner. Prof. Wykeham of Logic. Replaced, in all irony,
C. D. Broad
Cambridge man, so what does he know or _can_ know (i.e. is willing to) re:
Yes, S. R. Bayne loves him... but ... I find his pictures painted with too,
er, broad (ouch) a brush.
Grice amazingly cites him in "Personal Identity"!
This I have a recollection is a distinguished American philosopher. Surely
his surname was officially first "Blanchard". I once met an American
name was "White". I said, 'That's a clean Anglo-Saxon
surname". He said,
"Actually, it was originally _Blanche_ but it was changed at Ellis
Island". Ah well.
Yes, the Harvardite.
William Calvert Kneale
one of the Ryleites. I.e. he was old enough to be in Ryle's group, along
with Prichard, and Oscar Wood. That man (Wood) really should belong to the
Austin group, but ...
I forget momentarily what the maiden name of his wife was. Martha, yes.
Bayne was saying Anscombe was a character (we should compile one --alla that
online dictionary that has 'grice' as 'conceptual intricacy').
I think Grice (in "Reply To Richards") surprises me when he quotes,
Kneale on matters of 'induction' and 'probablity'. I must
confess I find
Kneale's writing a bit too Rylean to my taste, i.e. none of the wit of the
And just because his "Growth of Logic" (original title of his
lectures -- he
and Martha should _never_ have changed it onto 'development' -- sounds
pretty _cheap_) is the established vademecum it is, I feel there's an aura
authority around the man that does not really appeal me (And I'm using
as the word that wears the trousers!).
Now he was a darling. And possibly related to my favourite English soprano,
I never could digest any of Ewing's readings, though. He _does_ have a
lovely surname, though.
I think he was a _mystic_ and then he was Cantab. so what would _he_ know?
Well, the Russian, right (for he might have been a Roosian, a French, or
Turk or Prossian). I guess his first name was Maxwell really. His father had a
lot of class. He is _an_ interesting one, but tends to use too general
phrases. Martinich did I think discuss his round with Grice in _Dialectica_. I
read Black's commentary on Grice in _Literary History_ I think the
called. It has been reprinted. He has some good points but he is too
commonsensical to appeal me. He had interesting things to say about _metaphor_
find those thoughts too Wittgenstein-influenced to appeal me!
Well, he is another darling. First heard of him via browsing Martin
_Annotated Alice_. He was born in Firenze, of all places, but when I tell my
friends that Heath is a 'dago' they laugh! -- I think Gardner
views on _Aspects of Alice_, very sensical. For Humpty Dumpty, ordinary words
do not have meaning (e.g. 'slithy goves') but proper names do
"Humpty"). Just because he settled in "the green hills of
tune) he should be revered. He was a mathematician too but that bit about him
bores me slightly. It's amazing how much he contributed to Edwards's
Encyclopaedia of Philosophy.
Now, this sounds like from a short story by Tennessee Williams.
(I got the list of contributors from I think amazon.) and it has the
at the end, so I hope I _am_ missing a good old name worth preserving.
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