[hist-analytic] Whither Analytic Philosophy?
jlsperanza at aol.com
jlsperanza at aol.com
Tue Feb 2 12:44:21 EST 2010
R. B. Jones:
"Though I soon forgot about my first idea last year, I did actually
something, which is in:
http://www.rbjones.com/rbjpub/www/papers/p008.pdf where there is a
Carnap and Grice (the date on the front is incorrect, I haven't touched
since 2 June)."
"If you bring Speranza to a party he´ll bring Grice along".
Or as Mirembe Nantongo elsewhere said elsewhere -- "worse, he´ll come
dressed as a Conversational Implicature" (it´s a fancy dress party, you
I enjoyed your epithet for Grice, "metaphysically relaxed".
"metaphysically non-anal retentive", as I prefer. I once was googling
for analytic philosophy and came across the blog of one philosopher who
defines his-self as "in the anal-retentive tradition of analytic
philosophy". Ah well. Not your Grice.
In notes and tapes Chapman transcribed for posterity, Grice is heard as
saying -- awing their students, as I prefer, i.e. eliciting "aws!" from
them, "Not long ago, ´metaphysics´ was a term of abuse in Oxford."
Not anymore, I suspect (When I stayed at the Randolph, with a view to
St. John´s) I was flabbergasted to overhear conversations at Memorial
of Martyrs, and they were NOT telling each other to "Carnap off",
You write: "Grice thought of (his-self) as a kind of ordinary language
philosopher", which you scare quote. Elsewhere I posted something:
for one has to consider Grice´s inverted snobbery here.
But I think that compared to _Bradley_ (I always have Bradley on the
tip of my tongue. Nobody has read him, so nobody can gladiatorally
refute me) Grice´s English IS pretty ordinary (I´m still trying to
locate the LATIN for this. Reading Cicero in the Loebs I came across a
reference to "extraordinary language" but forget to remember what inapt
Latin expression he used for his lovely English one).
I´ll continue then:
This is ALL very serious.
For Grice, the use of metaphysical is VERY appropriate here.
He is honouring Russell, "grammar" a "pretty" "good guide to a logical
form", where you cannot disconnect pretty and good.
The correct is "prettily GOOD guide".
It´s not like
i. My niece Sue is pretty and good.
But more like
ii. Sue is pretty good (at whatever she does)
Grice was slightly infuriated by Russell´s cavalierism. Surely, when
Russell spoke of "stone-age metaphysics", he could, and SHOULD, have
spoken of a "stone-age PHYSICS".
For Carnap and Co, to cut a long story short:
physics =df metaphysics.
And right they were, too!
Aristotle was confused, but more so his disciples. There he left a
couple of notes meant for digestion by his students. VERY obscure.
"And what shall we call _these___" , axed (sic) Theophrastos.
"Well," Jenny replied, "They were next to "ta phusika biblia", so let´s
"Ta meta ta phusika biblia, you said?"
And the rest is legend.
There are important points in Carnap that allow for a Gricean tolerant
exegesis. Carnap´s emphasis on "decisions" regarding one´s conceptual
frameworks, etc. Why be a scientist, e.g. rather than a poet alla
These decisions are "transcategorial" in nature. They are
eschatoalogical. For Grice saw that there are TWO branches of
metaphysics or theoria-theoria, as he also called it:
proper. By which he meat both
-- pretty much along Jones´s excellent remarks on izzing and hazzing.
by which the Greeks -- Grecians and Griceans -- understood:
But there is a less trodden path in metaphysics too: eschatology, which
deals NOT with the general or special theory of categories, but with
our decisions to adopt this or that categorial scheme.
I don´t like Strawson a lot. I CANNOT read Strawson without reading
Grice between the lines. Grice spoiled Strawson for me. But recently
re-reading Chapman´s "Grice" -- and she is no philosopher, so some of
the idioms do not ring bells fo her -- I find reiterative mentions or
references to Grice´s use of
I cannot think "revisionary" without thinking of my "Robbing Peter to
Pay Paul". For Strawson did the honest thing an honest chap could back
in 1959, when he published his "essay in descriptive metaphysics". He
could only LAUGH at revisionary philosophy.
But the last laugh is of course on the man who could do it!
J. L. Speranza
for the griceclub.blogspot.
Ref. Schiffer: ¨That man with that uproaring laughter,
holding the martini is Grice¨ ¨And why is he called
Grice?¨ ¨Because he is Grice¨.
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