[hist-analytic] Carnap and Grice on the pragmatics of belief and assertion
Jlsperanza at aol.com
Jlsperanza at aol.com
Tue Mar 2 18:32:15 EST 2010
In a message dated 3/2/2010 6:35:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rbj at rbjones.com writes:
"Well, I would like to know where [Carnap works on the pragmatics of
belief and assertion]. He says some very radical things early on which I can't
imagine him holding to if we were to corner him later. In that he is making
it a branch of science, which is fair enough, insofar as it does offer a
way to make sense of it.
However, it doesn't make the right kind of sense of it, and one has a
better chance of getting a good analysis by treating it as a part of logic
rather than science (in Carnap's terms), this is also more consistent his
saying (as he does) that moral statements are like metaphysical ones,
"cognitively" meaningless (another bad choice of word)."
Good. Perhaps we should stick to a few 'generalisations'. The
internalisation of 'if' or MPP (modus ponendo ponens) may indeed be a trick (Loar wrote
extensively on those).
(BEL (A, p) & BEL(A, p --> q)) --> BEL (A, q)
or consider "&", my pet:
BEL(A, p & q) --> BEL(A, p)
Toby likes nuts (Grice's example -- he is a squarrel, sic)
Toby does NOT like nuts covered with poison.
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So that above is one type of thing. It's strictly THEORETICAL because the
observational bits we are assuming or implicating.
A different thing is when we get an input (perception) or an output
(sensory output). In this case we just define 'assertion' in terms of belief:
ASSERT (A, p) <--- BEL (A, p)
Hence Moore's Maradox
"I assert that it is raining, but I don't believe it".
Carnap does say that 'assertion' is the pragmatic notion par excellence and
he is citing Morris, etc. on the trichotomy of semiotics (syntactics,
semantics, pragmatics).
Grice WoW:iii notably (first two pages) is very critical of Moore paradox
and he'd say that an assertion EXPRESSES belief. He sees this as almost a
'necessary' truth as it concerns the 'indicative mode'. But major issues
emerge here, all fun, I'm sure.
J. L. Speranza
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